DespreFirme.com:
Multumim inca o data pentru feedback-ul dvs.
1. Publicitatea
Da, vom incepe sa introducem publicitate pe site. Din pacate, aceasta nu va acoperi costurile intretinerii site-ului. Vedeti dvs, majoritatea companiilor refuza sa-si faca reclama pe site-ul nostru pentru ca stiu ca langa logo-ul lor pot aparea comentarii negative din interior, fapt pe care ei il percep ca pe o reclama proasta. Asta e viata, traim printre oameni limitati. Asadar, reclama pe care o veti vedea va fi in mare parte neplatita.
2. Anonimatul
A. Identitatea utilizatorilor
Speram si aspiram catre o crestere a maturitatii pe piata muncii. Acesta este scopul principal al acestui site, sa promovam un dialog cat mai deschis asupra contractului social incheiat intre companii si angajati. Am inceput prin a le oferi angajatilor un loc de la nivelul caruia sa-si poata expune opiniile. Anonimatul a fost unul din elementele cheie necesare pentru a-i convinge sa participe. Vom mentine aceasta procedura intacta.
B. Omisiunea numelor
Locurile de munca sunt create si definite de catre indivizi. In mod particular, managerii au un mare rol in influentarea culturii organizationale. Deoarece acesti indivizi sunt factori decisivi in dezvoltarea profesionala a subordonatilor , ne-ar placea sa incepem sa le dezvaluim numele in forumurile noastre si sa nu mai folosim (omis) in mesaje. De multe ori ar putea fi mai relevant sa stim daca Ion Popescu e un manager inspirat la ABC SRL decat daca ABC SRL plateste prost. Aceasta decizie e greu de luat din doua motive: in primul rand, le-am permis utilizatorilor nostri sa fie destul de agresivi in descrierile sau, in anumite cazuri, atacurile lor asupra unei companii cu o reputatie slaba din acest punct de vedere. Pentru a permite acest tip de atac asupra unui individ ar fi de prost gust. In al doilea rand, ii oferim celui care scrie mesajele posibilitatea de a ramane anonim, lux pe care managerul criticat nu l-ar avea. Oricum, cu o moderare precauta si o politica editoriala stricta asupra dezvaluirii numelor, credem ca vom ajunge la un echilibru in feedback-ul important.
3. Confruntarea de la locul de munca
Pe langa cresterea nivelului de profesionalism in procesul de angajare si concediere din Romania, mai sunt si alte optiuni valabile pentru angajatii nemultumiti si costuri mai mari pentru angajatorii care iau decizii partinitoare nefiind bazate pe performanta, fapte sau confom legii. Trebuie sa avem incredere in piata si justitie care devin incet un arbitru adevarat in conflictul social si comercial. Participarea la discutiile din forumurile noastre constituie un prim pas si asta o demonstreaza opiniile majoritatii. Nadajduim ca din ce in ce mai multi oameni isi vor cere drepturile pentru a obtine o libertate a informatiilor pentru noi toti.
USER:
Va multumesc pentru raspuns. V-am trimis saptamana trecuta un mail in care criticam decizia Dvs. de a lista toate mesajele unui utilizator.
E bine ca ati raspuns si asa. Poate vad si altii. Daca aceasta schimbare a generat feedback inseamna ca nu sunt singurul.
Calitatea site-ului este foarte buna acum si va felicit daca introduceti reclame pe site. Inseamna ca deja aveti un numar considerabil de vizitatori care il depasec cu mult pe cei deja inscrisi in baza de date. Asta inseamna ca vor veni castiguri considerabile si le meritati: a fost munca multa si ideea de a face ce e acum merita premiata.
Sunt, insa, curios de un singur lucru. Odata cu noua optiune de a vedea mesajele unui utilizator, oare nu se va schimba ceva din obiectivitatea acestui site? Voi afirmati aici “Asadar, aceasa imbunatatire va ramane, cu parere de rau pentru cei care cred in teoria conspiratiei.” cu mult sarcasm dar oamenii o sa mai spuna verde in fata cum se intampla? Daca as fi sef de departament, cu siguranta as putea sa imi dau seama dupa istoricul mesajelor unui angajat al companiei X, unde a lucrat in trecut, unde lucreaza acum (in ce departament), ce isi doreste de la viitorul job. Sa spunem ca asta nu e un lucru atat de rau, dar poti sa ai parte de o confruntare la locul de munca ceea ce nu e deloc placut.
Daca vin si scriu aici este ca altii care vor sa se angajeze sa stie care e situatia in acea firma. Daca mai am puterea sa schimb ceva e clar ca nu scriu aici ci doar o fac; dar majoritatea care scriu aici o fac din neputinta de a schimba ceva in firma lor.
Daca ati luat aceasta decizie, renuntati complet la confidentialitate, afisati-le numele tuturor, sa nu mai apara <omis> cand se mentioneaza numele unui team leader.
Sper ca DespreFirme sa nu fie un produs care isi pastreaza o calitate superioara doar la inceput ca sa atraga, iar mai apoi cand devine un brand calitatea se pierde.
O sa vina bani destui din publicitate, poate numarul de utilizatori vor ramane aceeasi sau vor creste considerabil…dar…aveti si un barem prin care veti testa obiectivitatea mesajelor?
DespreFirme.com:
Incercam sa facem ca feedback-ul publicat pe site sa devina cat mai folositor pentru toti utilizatorii, nu doar o oportunitate de a se plange. Totusi, credem ca fiecare utilizator ar trebui sa aiba o unitate de masura pentru increderea pe care o acorda unui mesaj. Singura metoda prin care noi putem face asta este sa le dam posibilitatea de a vedea toate mesajele aceluiasi utilizator, de a percepe atitudinea generala a unui individ visavis de alte companii sau experiente proprii. Cat despre problemele conspirative si investigarea activitatii angajatilor de catre angajatorii lor pe site, compromisul ofera mult mai multa importanta informatiilor oferite utilizatorilor nostri dar nu compromite sub nicio forma semnificativa anonimatul.
USER:
Am observat ca se poate da un click pe “userul” care a postat un anumit comentariu si aceasta actiune va intoarce toate comentariile facute de acest utilizator. Consider un pic deranjanta aceasta optiune. Desi userul e un sir de numere-cifre totusi se poate urmari interesul acelei persoane pentru anumite firme si in cazul in care un comentariu este cu “si eu am lucrat/ lucrez aici” se poate deduce foarte usor de catre unii sefi cine e acea persoana.
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DespreFirme.com:
Again thanks for your feedback.
1. Advertising
Yes, we will begin to have advertising on the site. Unfortunately, it will not cover the costs of running the site. You see, most companies refuse to advertise their products with us, as they know that next to their advertisement there can appear a genuine negative statement about their company’s employment record, which they view as a negative product advertisement. Such is life among reactionary people with small minds. So, most of the advertising you see will be unpaid.
2. Anonymity
A. User Identity
We hope and aspire for a growing maturity in the job market. It is the main aim of this site, to promote a more open dialog about the social contract between company and employee. We have begun by providing the employee a level playing field from which to project their views. Anonymity has been a key element to convincing individuals to participate. We will continue to keep this policy intact.
B. Name Omission
Workplaces are created and defined by the individuals in them. Particularly, managers have a large role in deciding the culture that exists in their places of work. Because these individuals are key to the career development of their subordinates, we would like to begin to make their names public within our forums, and no longer introduce <name omis> within a post. It can often be much more relevant to know that Ion Popescu is an inspired manager at ABC SRL than that ABC SRL does not pay great salaries. We are conflicted by this decision with two things: First, we have allowed our users to be quite aggressive in their description, and in some cases attacks, upon a company with poor employment records. To allow this sort of attack on an individual would be in bad taste. Second, we give the writer of a post the benefit of anonymity, a luxury the manager being critiqued would not have. However, we feel with cautious moderation, and a tight editorial policy on what is acceptable when naming names, we will achieve a valuable balance of important feedback.
3. Workplace Confrontation
Alongside a growing professionalism in the hiring and firing process of Romanian employers, there are more options available to disgruntled employee, and higher costs for employers who make biased decisions not based in performance, fact or conforming to the law. We have to put our faith in the market and the system of justice which is slowly emerging as a real arbitrator of social and commercial conflict. Participating here in our forums is a first step. It demonstrates the silent majority’s views, and will hopefully inspire more and more people to openly advocate for their rights in the expectation of greater freedom of information for all.
USER:
Thanks for your reply. Last week, I’ve sent you an email criticising your decision of listing all the messages of an individual. It’s nice to answer like this. It could be helpful for others. If this change generated feedback, it means that i’m not the only one.
The website’s quality is very good now and I congratulate you for introducing advertising on the site. It means that you already have a significant number of visits much bigger than the number of users that are already signed in your database. This means that significant gains will come and you deserve it: there has been a lot of work and the idea is worth awarded.
However, I’m curious about one thing: won’t this new feature of seeing all the messages of an individual change something in the website’s objectivness? You say: “Thus, that change is here to stay (sorry conspiracy theorists).” with a lot of sarcasm but will people keep on beeing honest about their employer? If I was a department manager, I would know for sure who that user is by his messages record, what department, what he wants from his future job. Let’s say that this is not such a bad thing, but you can get to confront to your coleagues at your workplace and this is not a desirable thing.
If I write here, I do it so that others know what happens in companies before they apply to get hired. If I still have the power to change something, it’s clear that I don’t post here and I just change something; but most of the users that write here, are doing it because they can’t change a thing in the company where they work.
If you took this decision, you should completely renounce to anonimity, show everyone’s names, don’t write (omis) when a team leader’s name appears.
I hope that DespreFirme is not a product that keeps its high quality just to attract attention for the begining and lose it later when it becames a brand.
Money from advertising will come, maybe the number of users will remain the same or it will significantly rise but do you have a gauge to test the messages’ objectiveness?
DespreFirme.com:
We are trying to make the feedback posted on our site more useful to all users, not just an opportunity to complain. Thus, we feel that each user should be able to have a gauge for the reliability of a person posting a message about a company that they may be considering. The only way we can do that is to allow them to see other posts from that individual, to read the general tone of the individual toward any other companies or employment experiences he or she may have had. As to the conspiracy issues and the investigation by employers on their employees activities on our site, I feel that the compromise is hugely weighted in favor of allowing our users more information, as this feature does not in any significant way compromise anonymity…
USER:
I’ve noticed that one can click on the screen name of the user who posted a messages and see all the postings of that individual. I think that this option is slightly disturbing. Although the screen name is a succession of numbers and letter, you can follow that user’s interest for certain companies and if there is a messages saying “I’ve worked here”, you can very simply deduct who is behind that screen name.